Jan 13, 2013 2:00am PST
, round two, larry pratt, executive director of gun owners of america. mr. pratt, welcome back to you. >> thank you for having me. >> why did you agree to come back? >> well, i thought maybe we could help you sell some more newspapers. >> more newspapers? >> increase your viewership. >> we are a television channel you are aware of that? >> i'm sorry, yes, of course. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results the next time. >> right. so your solution, if you were there in that meeting, would be to arm every school, every church, every hospital, everywhere that members of the public can be?
Jan 13, 2013 3:00pm PST
these proposals their voices at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of the 20 small children in newtown, last month, do you see any sign that mrs. tanden and allies can change the national conversation and get members of congress to pass the first tough gun controls since 1994? >> we don't think that there is much likelihood that the congress is going to move on making gun control laws worse than they are. in fact, already there are a couple of bills that have been put in one by representative steve stockman outside of houston that would remove the gun free zones that have been so much like a magnet to invite mass murderers into zones where they know nobody else will be able to shoot back. and that i think is where the debate is likely to shift. are we really better off when we say no defense is a good defense? >> chris: i want to put up an ad that gun control advocates have started running against new democratic senator heidi hei dcamp of north dakota when she said some of the president's ideas about gun control are